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#ChSocM Chat Transcript:
June 25, 2014
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat, especially those joining for
the first time.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
If this is your 1st tweetchat ever, please don't get discouraged by the pace! The transcript will be
here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
We always open this chat with prayer before moving on with self-introductions. Let us pray:
#chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Lord, let the good news of your marvelous deeds fall on every ear, and let all tongues rejoice in
your wisdom, your compassion,... #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
your faithfulness, and your love. Make me bold and let me share your Word with those you
desire to reach... #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
As my heart overflows with your love, speak through me. Let me proclaim your glory and your
majesty, #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
and tell of the kindness you have shown your people. This I ask, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Next up: self-introductions. In addition to church affiliation, tell everyone how you currently use
social media #chsocm
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Beth Felice @bfelice
<--attempting to wrangle stray bits of social media into an esther williams worthy aquamusical
on the Episcopal soundstage. #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
I'm a #chsocm volunteer for @StTimsEpiscopal. My full time job is stay-at-home mom, so I am
all over social media all day.
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
Hi all! Joining from CT, using #chsocm to connect, build community, invite, share info, get
news, etc.
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
I study how Christians (esp. evangelicals) use media (esp. the Internet) (esp. for evangelism)
#chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization
#chsocm
Jessica Barcomb @jessictdweller
Jessica from St. Alban's in CT. I use social media....socially & admin St. Alban's facebook page.
#chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Kindly remember that we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email
to pitch products/services #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
From Charlottesville, VA. Lutheran (Missouri Synod). Youth Group Director. #chsocm great
way to keep up with my kids.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Moderating tonight: Neal F. Fischer, Director of Communications, @upstatenysynod of the
@elca. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
Cheryl, Episc, #chsocm fan, stepped away from screen & lost track of time. :-)
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
#chsocm HEY Y'ALL ! :-) Caroline from #Nola I use soc media a LOT (esp Twitter) & also
manage accts St. Paul's & a couple of other orgs
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Tonight on #chsocm we’re chatting about: #outreach #goals #evaluatingnew #implementing
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Kathi Johnson @SmilingKIJ
Kathi, lurking for a few before late dinner. #ELCA pastor in N. TX. Use FB, Twitter, Blogger,
Pinterest, IG, Vine. #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
Episcopal Camp Director from MT. Excited to be here for full hr. #chsocm
Beth Felice @bfelice
@nealffischer big list! #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
Angela, office support for communications and membership at an ELCA Lutheran church west
of Minneapolis #ChSocM
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Let us begin with our topics. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T1.) What do you see as the most effective method of outreach for the Church? (i.e. Radio, TV,
Paper, Social Media, etc.) #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
<--sliding into the room, happy to be here after the #ecsm13 mtg in NYC & a train ride home
w/o WiFi! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
T1: #chsocm for sure, if church wants to reach today's generation. Other media are waning.
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@nealffischer T1) Don't mean to be nitpicky, but what are we meaning by "effective"--for
starting dialogue, drawing members, etc.? #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@MeredithGould woohoo - glad you made it after all! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@MeredithGould Was wondering where you were! :-) #chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
@nealffischer #chsocm Hmm, I'd say TV, FB, and the old-fashioned word of mouth and
actions in the community (esp those resulting in news)
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
T1, Well, Social Media is the obvious answer. But it depends who we are trying to reach. We've
had good luck with yard signs, too. #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
#chsocm T1: Most effective - Facebook because most people of all generations are on there.
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Angela @mnplatypus
T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
MT @Conductor222 #chsocm Hmm, I'd say TV, FB, and the old-fashioned word of mouth and
actions in the community (esp those resulting in news)
Beth Felice @bfelice
person to person #chsocm, although do you mean outside that?
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T1: person to person contact, whether F2F, email, SM, etc. I find more personal, better results.
#chsocm
Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano
#chsocm I students Deaf eloquence and sacred rhetoric. Social media helps me connect with
people with related interests.
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T1 Have to echo @Amberstamperphd Effective for what? What's the goal? #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@mnplatypus Totally agree, Angela! Was just about to say that media is effective insofar as it
approximates f2f relationships :) #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@AmberStamperPhD In this case effective would mean best at achieving your goal for the
campaign. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @mnplatypus T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth //F2F? #chsocm
Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano
#chsocm. Oops, study not students! :-)
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @BryanPXP T1: person to person contact, whether F2F, email, SM, etc. I find more personal,
better results. #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
... Which can include online word of mouth :) #ChSocM
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T1A.) If you said social media, what platform is most effective for you? #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
RT @mnplatypus: ... Which can include online word of mouth :) #ChSocM LOVE
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Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
T1a: Definitely @facebook. #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T1 Most effective tactic? Sharing relatable stories. Most effective tool? Depends! #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
(Off topic) This hand balancing is distracting me from #ChSocM
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T1a: anything that can allow dialog later. Now Facebook pages has messages, it works well.
#chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
T1A: FB is most effective. More ppl using, easy to have long dialogs w/multiple ppl. #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
T1: even for more broadcast--inviting, raising public awareness--medium still depends on who
and where you are--fb ads new in MT #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@singingcarolyn T1A I agree facebook is tops #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
RT @singingcarolyn: T1a: Definitely @facebook. #chsocm AGREE! Though I secretly wish
more people were on Twitter.
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
Curious: Do any of y'all involved in ministry collect data on the effectiveness of the diff
platforms you use? #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
RT @MeredithGould T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm
Evan Duncan @evanduncan
@nealffischer T1A) Facebook. Population, ability to share and tag, and promotion has made it
extremely effective. #chsocm
Beth Felice @bfelice
@theologybird should have a sidebar with you later about FB ads! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@MeredithGould Why the difference? #chsocm
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Angela @mnplatypus
T1a I didn't say social media, but Facebook, because the audience is there AND it facilitates word
of mouth #ChSocM
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
RT @MeredithGould: T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm same
here.
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@GodtheHealerDev @facebook Or not so secretly...I'm persistently inviting everyone to
Twitter...#chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T2.) On a number of occasions we've talked about "having a plan." Name one goal in your
#chsocm plan.
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@LuckyCharm333 Because what I do & need & how I best communicate as moiself, differs from
what I'd do on behalf of an organization #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@bfelice anytime! I only know a little, though. #chsocm
Dawn Trautman @UrbanNomadUSA
RT @meredithgould:Most effective tactic? Sharing relatable stories. Most effective tool?
Depends! #chsocm//Message matters more than medium.
Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick
T1a: depends on the goal - and the strategy. #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@AmberStamperPhD Collect? Not exactly. Look at, review? Yes. I do a brief report for the
annual meeting each year. #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@singingcarolyn Oh don't invite people to Twitter unless the tool will work well with their
learning & communication style #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
T2: getting other people on board!! With idea of sm and as authors #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
T2 Become a presence & a destination in chosen milieu #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T2: I see our church (in a university community) needs to use #chsocm to keep our UVa
students in loop when they have spotty attendance.
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MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community & build new ones #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
RT @LuckyCharm333 T2 Become a presence & a destination in chosen milieu #chsocm //and
helping ppl understand this process
Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick
T2: Develop appropriate engagement platform for student at UAA (local). #chsocm - doesn't
predetermine the medium. They're very mobile!!
Angela @mnplatypus
T2 a goal for me is more consistency on Pinterest (I feel like I'm doing OK with Facebook and
pinterest is a growth area) #ChSocM
Miranda Gray @mirgray2
Agree. RT @mnplatypus: T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T2: Plan? We are suppose to have a plan?
Shoot…..? I try to tweet an uplifting thought daily. Does that count? #snarky
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@singingcarolyn Twitter evangelism! Love it! #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@GodtheHealerDev does "flying by the seat of one's pants" count as a plan? #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
RT @MeredithGould: T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community & build new ones #chsocm
Exactly!
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T2: My personal plan with my youth is to be available in any fashion they need, when they need.
I give them many options. #chsocm
Deirdre Daily @deirddaily_
#chsocm I students Deaf eloquence and sacred rhetoric. Social media helps me connect with
people with related interests.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T2A.) Is your goal measureable? If so, how do you know if you are successful in reaching your
goal? #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@BryanPXP 2 years ago this #chsocm community didn't exist! Built!
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Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@theologybird I'd be happy w/getting ppl to understand the reason to aspire to that in the first
place, forget the process #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
Amen! RT @MeredithGould T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community &amp; build new ones
#chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@LeistCatalano @godthehealerdev :) that's how I started! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
MT @AmberStamperPhD So many effectiveness factors to eval (qual of interactions vs quant,
for ex): hard to go just on feel? #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@LuckyCharm333 Ha--Yes!!! #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
RT @LeistCatalano: @GodtheHealerDev does "flying by the seat of one's pants" count as a plan?
#chsocm I hope so … Otherwise I am in trouble.
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@AmberStamperPhD I use mix of numbers and anecdotes to explain what and why. #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T2a: Very very difficult to measure faith & successful evangelism b/c it can take yrs for people to
actually get to a church #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T2a That's years between hearing the message & attending church, let alone participating or
getting on the rolls. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
MT @MeredithGould T2a: difficult to measure faith & successful evangelism b/c it can take yrs
for people to actually get to a church #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
Do financial resources play a role in the goals that can be set for social media engagement for
y'all at all? #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T2a: Also, someone might be inspired by your #chsocm but decide to attend church for another
denomination, or two!
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@AmberStamperPhD Yes #chsocm
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Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick
@MeredithGould IF getting people to a church is your goal. We're trying to get them to God.
#notthesame #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@MeredithGould Last statistic I read was that it takes on avg. 3 years of relationship-building
for conversion decisions to be made #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@AmberStamperPhD yes, we will only use free social media resources unless we can be paid
content/ads are working #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T3.) What distinguishes your social media implementations from every other Church’s? What
makes yours unique? #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@AmberStamperPhD I wouldn't think so. A church w/enough diverse members should be able
to keep #chsocm going w/volunteers.
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@ofredrick Agree but many church communicators are forced to justify their existence but
proving they've gotten butts in pews. #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@AmberStamperPhD Yes, we can only do so much with so little. But our "so much" can be
pretty meaningful. #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@AmberStamperPhD Makes sense. Would've guessed 3-4. #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@singingcarolyn Seems like this is one way where the Internet distinguishes itself as a medium
for outreach #chsocm
Evan Duncan @evanduncan
@nealffischer T3) Personal, high quality, artistic, and powerful use of photography and video to
tell stories of faith. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
T3 Sad to report, cong thinks even the website is a "waste of money," dislikes #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
T3 Good Q. I do follow all the churches in our area to see what they are doing. #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
T3 I use a lot of photos and make images with added text and quotes #chsocm
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Sergio Caputo @binkylifeq
Episcopal Camp Director from MT. Excited to be here for full hr. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @singingcarolyn T3 Good Q. I do follow all the churches in our area to see what they are
doing. //Excellent! #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T3: Church is starting to experiment in YouTube. I think we'll expand. Just got a new, younger
pastor so excited for road ahead. #chsocm
Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick
@MeredithGould Yep. We really want to make denominational adherents (and donors) - not
disciples. No honesty in our metrics. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@binkylifeq welcome! jump in as you are able #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @LeistCatalano T3 I use a lot of photos and make images with added text and quotes
#chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@LuckyCharm333 Well, if the website is awful it *is* a waste of money! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@MeredithGould True. But hard to keep a website fresh when ppl won't give ministry updates.
#chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
RT @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould True. But hard to keep a website fresh when ppl won't
give ministry updates. #chsocm
Miranda Gray @mirgray2
Indeed RT @MeredithGould: T2a: Also, someone might be inspired by your #chsocm but
decide to attend church for another denomination, or two!
Beth Felice @bfelice
I'm slow tonight. Objective is to facilitate the social through community, and not have a
broadcast channel of one. #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
#chsocm T3: I am a sole act with no in person relationships, besides friends, colleagues, and
conferences, I am able to see the bigger pic.
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
@nealffischer T3 #chsocm I'm not sure if we're unique, well, I guess we are b/c we're US for
realz! We also try using lots of humor on FB!
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Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@singingcarolyn I also facebook-stalk other local churches :) #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@theologybird @LuckyCharm333 Yes, there is that! #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @LeistCatalano @singingcarolyn I also facebook-stalk other local churches :) #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@LeistCatalano Oh let's not call it stalking...let's call it gathering market intelligence! #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T4.) With new social networks popping up, seemingly daily, how do you evaluate new networks
for Church use? #chsocm
Miranda Gray @mirgray
Ouch RT @ofredrick: Yep. We really want to make denominational adherents (and donors) - not
disciples. No honesty in our metrics. #chsocm
Marcus A. Cylar @pastorcylar
Hate missing the #chsocm chat tonight. The weekly transcripts are so clutch tho
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
#chsocm T3: It allows me to connect people and gather resources for fellow pastors and clergy.
Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano
@theologybird Takes some a lifetime " years of relationship-building for conversion decisions"
#chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T4 Great question. Tough to evaluate new platforms without using them a bit but I'd ask: do
they help fulfill strategic goals? #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T4 We discussed all SM, I said we would have to be consistent and intentional. Otherwise, better
spend energy elsewhere. #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
@MeredithGould @LeistCatalano #chsocm and really, watching others to some degree should
be mandatory for all of us
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@BryanPXP Not much exciting happening with most local churches in StL and #ChSocM but
things are picking up.
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Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
T4 I'd err on the side of abandon. Est'd a 4Sq presence for my church & most of cong still doesn't
even know what that is. #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@nealffischer #chsocm T4) We see if we can gauge the # of followers & whether or not it
supports photos/vid/text well, do others use it etc.
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@mnplatypus @LeistCatalano Observing others, absolutely! How else would we learn what
works/what doesn't? #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
T4 is really hard when you're still trying to get ppl to agree with sm in general. Less input abt
where they/friends are #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T4 I try & test everything out on myself, first and check out what others are doing before
recommending to churches #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
@mnplatypus @MeredithGould yes, I use my church facebook account to "gather intelligence"
on about 200 other church organizations #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
T4. I have fun playing with new (to me) platforms personally. As I do so, I can start to see
ministry applications. #chsocm
Beth Felice @bfelice
@meredithgould Agree, sometimes you just have to jump in there and see if the accent can be
understood in your neck of the woods. #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
If others aren't involved in sm, new platforms increase pressure to be an expert and decrease
their interest. (From what I've seen) #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@LeistCatalano @mnplatypus Smart. Very sociological! <thumbs up> #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @MeredithGould T4 I try & test everything out on myself first and check out what others are
doing before recommending to churches #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
Really enjoying @snapchat and starting to see how it could be used for #chsocm. But not ready
to launch.
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God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
#chsocm T4: I wonder if other SM sites should be used to supplement your main SM site. Just
a hairy thought.
Steve Kenow @skenow
@nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and then determine fit
in overall strategy #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@singingcarolyn Isn't that the one where posts disappear after a minute or so? #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
@LuckyCharm333 #chsocm sometimes it takes diving in to really evaluate the potential. Still,
there are only so many hours in a day
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@singingcarolyn <moderator hat off> I have been playing with Pheed for that reason. Lots of
youth potential. Also, many reports... #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@singingcarolyn Oh please share your thoughts when you do decide to launch! I would've
thought Snapchat was a tough one! :) #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@singingcarolyn Say more abt @snapchat please? All I'm hearing is fear and seeing YA's and
other enjoy it #needmoretime #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
RT @skenow @nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and
then determine fit in overall strategy #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
RT @skenow @nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and
then determine fit in overall strategy #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
@AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn my kids tell me to get on SnapChat but I see more issues
than not. #chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
#chsocm T4) I also find locally that some platforms are more or less pop w/ certain age groups.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@singingcarolyn ...that young folks are really starting to flock to it away from FB. </moderator
hat off> #chsocm
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Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @BryanPXP @AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn my kids tell me to get on SnapChat but I
see more issues than not. #chsocm
Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck
@ChSocM Hey #chsocm peeps. Jumping in late after a little league game.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T5.) How do you implement a new social media network in your setting? Do you need approval?
From whom? Who is involved?
Angela @mnplatypus
@singingcarolyn #chsocm interesting ....
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@paulsteinbrueck Who won? #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@BryanPXP @singingcarolyn Haha! :) Snapchat makes me nervous--I mean wherrre do the
pictures goooo? Haha :) #chsocm
ChurchSocMed #chsocm @chsocm
@paulsteinbrueck Playing? Coaching? ;-) #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@paulsteinbrueck welcome Paul #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
T5: How do you implement a new social media network in your setting? Do you need approval?
From whom? Who is involved? #chsocm
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
Snapchat is about sharing small moments with those you care about who aren't with you. See
the ministry potential? #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
I know more and more young ppl who won't get or closed their FB @nealffischer
@singingcarolyn #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @chsocm @paulsteinbrueck Playing? Coaching? ;-) #chsocm
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
T5 For starting a major new account like Pinterest I consult a group, but for adding an add-on
like Instagram I just do it #chsocm
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MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@singingcarolyn Sharing small/short moments that then disappear so no one can be held
accountable, right? That's what's worrisome. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@singingcarolyn Isn't all #chsocm about that? I guess it depends on where folks are...
Beth Felice @bfelice
I think we get caught in echo chambers, we don't "see" much going on. The great value of SM is
to seamlessly leap between silos #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
T5 I pretty much have a free reign in trying whatever I like #ChSocM
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
@nealffischer #chsocm I suggested FB & Twitter accts "as an experiment" b/c was met w/
furrowed brows from staff & clergy. Got approval tho!
Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano
T4 my kids (ages 1, 5, and 7) love Vine and Instagram #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@theologybird Hey I'm OLD & if I didn't do #chsocm for a so-called living, I'd close my FB
account. PITA. #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
T5: upside of little interest, esp from institution is that I can do what I want, mostly. My staff
will tell they don't have same #chsocm
Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck
@chsocm Ha! #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
My church follows the policy: You want to do it? Go do it and be fruitful! (typically) #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@Conductor222 Don't understand all the furrowed brows. Every %$*^ company is on SM, why
not #chsocm?
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally, disappears on the
interwebs. #chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
@AmberStamperPhD @BryanPXP @singingcarolyn #chsocm I'd think snapchat would come
with an accountability issue, especially with youth
16
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally,
disappears on the interwebs. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@LeistCatalano <moderator hat off> You are absolutely right. Just about every #chsocm
platform that is visual is growing faster.</>
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@singingcarolyn Well we know nothing ever disappears but I think they believe it does!
#chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
#chsocm T5)... Now, the 2 clergy & myself, we do FB & I do Twitter. May be going to YouTube.
Same for Civic Symphony & university Mus Dept
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@singingcarolyn Good point. Is it more abt sustaining/building relationship? How do you meet
new ppl/expand ur circle? #chsocm
Steve Kenow @skenow
@nealffischer T5 demonstrate how it works personally, show needs/benefits. Decide if official
presence works #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
T6.) What, if any, are the restrictions or limitations on social media activities in your setting?
#chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@MeredithGould Me too--if it wasn't work relevant... But I keep hearing about FB and young
ppl from uninformed #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@skenow And nothing wrong with a trial period. #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
#chsocm T5: Trial and error
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
RT @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally,
disappears on the interwebs. #chsocm
MeredithGould @MeredithGould
@theologybird I feel your drain. #chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
@LuckyCharm333 #chsocm I totally agree! They were thinking it was only for the distracted
etc. Now, everyone sees the value of it!
17
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
Camp=kids=release forms and parent concerns. All very valid and necessary. #chsocm
Beth Felice @bfelice
@meredithgould @theologybird I third your party. #chsocm cuz y'all know i'd be moving into
reddit.
Steve Kenow @skenow
@luckycharm333 absolutely - give them an escape clause #chsocm
God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev
T6 #chsocm: only follow people and organizations that support my mission. I do not follow
P!nk on this handle.
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@bfelice Reddit seems like an excellent mission field, actually. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @GodtheHealerDev T6 #chsocm: only follow people and organizations that support my
mission. I do not follow P!nk on this handle.
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@bfelice <mod hat off> I am trying to do more with reddit. For finding info I am getting more
out of Feedly.</> #chsocm
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
T6 Personally, I try to keep this account as me. So there are a lot of Mets tweets and a lot of 'life'
tweets. I keep it like my RL. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
@bfelice <mod hat off> I am trying to do more with reddit. For finding info I am getting more
out of Feedly.</> #chsocm
Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor
T6 Use of FB in my setting still growing, with registration for events and spreading news. Other
SM still far behind in audience #chSocM
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
@nealffischer #chsocm T6) We really have none, but I give priest in charge final decisions if
anything is questionable
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Final tweets of wisdom or inspiration? #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
Seems like witness used to be someone observing you in many day2day situations; now, it's
someone seeing you in many diff platforms #chsocm
18
Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor
#ChSocM Our VBS had record registration this year from outside our church, because added
GoogleDoc form to FB page & "sharing"
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
(Mental note: Must investigate Reddit more thoroughly) #chsocm
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
Me too!!! RT @LuckyCharm333 (Mental note: Must investigate Reddit more thoroughly)
#chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
#chsocm T6) I always ask if diff depts want me to post something. I'm lucky we all think alike
& are an A-team abt getting people involved!
Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP
My wisdom was going to be along the lines of @AmberStamperPhD. Hers much better than
whatever I was working on. #chsocm
Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor
#ChSocM I don't "get" Reddit. Still not sure how to add following on Instagram or Tumblr
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@AmberStamperPhD Amen! The times they are a'changin'... :-) (That was a song once upon a
time for you younger folks!) #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
Seems like somehow we make ourselves "real" online by having a multi-dimensional social
presence. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @FatPastor #ChSocM I don't "get" Reddit. Still not sure how to add following on Instagram
or Tumblr
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
To tweet or not to tweet... TWEET! And also RT “@nealffischer: Final tweets of wisdom or
inspiration? #chsocm ” :-)
Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick
@mirgray Too cynical?? But you might see my point if you're in a declining denomination.
#chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
RT @AmberStamperPhD Seems like somehow we make ourselves "real" online by having a
multi-dimensional social presence. #chsocm
19
Robyn Barnes @theologybird
@singingcarolyn Yes! But I dot have time/inclination/universal interest to figure all things out.
So thankful for #chsocm and ppl like you!
Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck
@LuckyCharm333 Mental note - does that work? My mental notes have a half life of ~10
seconds :) #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD
@paulsteinbrueck @LuckyCharm333 Snapchat would be perfect for you! ;) #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@ofredrick All denoms are declining, AFAIK, except maybe evangelicals. Our mission? Reverse
the trend! #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep
we may rest in peace. #chsocm
Caroline Carson @Conductor222
#chsocm That was fast!
Beth Felice @bfelice
@amberstamperphd Not so sure..I see different communities engaging on their own channels,
few are hopping from platform to platform. #chsocm
Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333
@paulsteinbrueck Mine too. I had already forgotten that... LOL #chsocm
Steve Kenow @skenow
@nealffischer too many ways to consume #SM, balance with contributing and sharing.
#chsocm
Angela @mnplatypus
@paulsteinbrueck @LuckyCharm333 #chsocm my mental note is kept by favoriting ... But no,
it doesn't work as well as I'd like ...
Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn
@theologybird Me too! So grateful for this community. I've learned so much. #chsocm
Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer
This #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening.Please continue chatting. Join us next
week same Bat-Time Same Bat-Channel #PBWY

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#ChSocM Chat Transcript: 6 25-13

  • 1. 1 #ChSocM Chat Transcript: June 25, 2014 Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat, especially those joining for the first time. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer If this is your 1st tweetchat ever, please don't get discouraged by the pace! The transcript will be here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer We always open this chat with prayer before moving on with self-introductions. Let us pray: #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Lord, let the good news of your marvelous deeds fall on every ear, and let all tongues rejoice in your wisdom, your compassion,... #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer your faithfulness, and your love. Make me bold and let me share your Word with those you desire to reach... #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer As my heart overflows with your love, speak through me. Let me proclaim your glory and your majesty, #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer and tell of the kindness you have shown your people. This I ask, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Next up: self-introductions. In addition to church affiliation, tell everyone how you currently use social media #chsocm
  • 2. 2 Beth Felice @bfelice <--attempting to wrangle stray bits of social media into an esther williams worthy aquamusical on the Episcopal soundstage. #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano I'm a #chsocm volunteer for @StTimsEpiscopal. My full time job is stay-at-home mom, so I am all over social media all day. Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn Hi all! Joining from CT, using #chsocm to connect, build community, invite, share info, get news, etc. Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD I study how Christians (esp. evangelicals) use media (esp. the Internet) (esp. for evangelism) #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm Jessica Barcomb @jessictdweller Jessica from St. Alban's in CT. I use social media....socially & admin St. Alban's facebook page. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Kindly remember that we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP From Charlottesville, VA. Lutheran (Missouri Synod). Youth Group Director. #chsocm great way to keep up with my kids. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Moderating tonight: Neal F. Fischer, Director of Communications, @upstatenysynod of the @elca. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 Cheryl, Episc, #chsocm fan, stepped away from screen & lost track of time. :-) Caroline Carson @Conductor222 #chsocm HEY Y'ALL ! :-) Caroline from #Nola I use soc media a LOT (esp Twitter) & also manage accts St. Paul's & a couple of other orgs Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Tonight on #chsocm we’re chatting about: #outreach #goals #evaluatingnew #implementing
  • 3. 3 Kathi Johnson @SmilingKIJ Kathi, lurking for a few before late dinner. #ELCA pastor in N. TX. Use FB, Twitter, Blogger, Pinterest, IG, Vine. #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird Episcopal Camp Director from MT. Excited to be here for full hr. #chsocm Beth Felice @bfelice @nealffischer big list! #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus Angela, office support for communications and membership at an ELCA Lutheran church west of Minneapolis #ChSocM Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Let us begin with our topics. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T1.) What do you see as the most effective method of outreach for the Church? (i.e. Radio, TV, Paper, Social Media, etc.) #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould <--sliding into the room, happy to be here after the #ecsm13 mtg in NYC & a train ride home w/o WiFi! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 T1: #chsocm for sure, if church wants to reach today's generation. Other media are waning. Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @nealffischer T1) Don't mean to be nitpicky, but what are we meaning by "effective"--for starting dialogue, drawing members, etc.? #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @MeredithGould woohoo - glad you made it after all! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould Was wondering where you were! :-) #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 @nealffischer #chsocm Hmm, I'd say TV, FB, and the old-fashioned word of mouth and actions in the community (esp those resulting in news) Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn T1, Well, Social Media is the obvious answer. But it depends who we are trying to reach. We've had good luck with yard signs, too. #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T1: Most effective - Facebook because most people of all generations are on there.
  • 4. 4 Angela @mnplatypus T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 MT @Conductor222 #chsocm Hmm, I'd say TV, FB, and the old-fashioned word of mouth and actions in the community (esp those resulting in news) Beth Felice @bfelice person to person #chsocm, although do you mean outside that? Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T1: person to person contact, whether F2F, email, SM, etc. I find more personal, better results. #chsocm Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano #chsocm I students Deaf eloquence and sacred rhetoric. Social media helps me connect with people with related interests. MeredithGould @MeredithGould T1 Have to echo @Amberstamperphd Effective for what? What's the goal? #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @mnplatypus Totally agree, Angela! Was just about to say that media is effective insofar as it approximates f2f relationships :) #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @AmberStamperPhD In this case effective would mean best at achieving your goal for the campaign. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @mnplatypus T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth //F2F? #chsocm Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano #chsocm. Oops, study not students! :-) Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @BryanPXP T1: person to person contact, whether F2F, email, SM, etc. I find more personal, better results. #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus ... Which can include online word of mouth :) #ChSocM Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T1A.) If you said social media, what platform is most effective for you? #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev RT @mnplatypus: ... Which can include online word of mouth :) #ChSocM LOVE
  • 5. 5 Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn T1a: Definitely @facebook. #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T1 Most effective tactic? Sharing relatable stories. Most effective tool? Depends! #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus (Off topic) This hand balancing is distracting me from #ChSocM Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T1a: anything that can allow dialog later. Now Facebook pages has messages, it works well. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 T1A: FB is most effective. More ppl using, easy to have long dialogs w/multiple ppl. #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird T1: even for more broadcast--inviting, raising public awareness--medium still depends on who and where you are--fb ads new in MT #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @singingcarolyn T1A I agree facebook is tops #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev RT @singingcarolyn: T1a: Definitely @facebook. #chsocm AGREE! Though I secretly wish more people were on Twitter. MeredithGould @MeredithGould T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD Curious: Do any of y'all involved in ministry collect data on the effectiveness of the diff platforms you use? #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird RT @MeredithGould T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm Evan Duncan @evanduncan @nealffischer T1A) Facebook. Population, ability to share and tag, and promotion has made it extremely effective. #chsocm Beth Felice @bfelice @theologybird should have a sidebar with you later about FB ads! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould Why the difference? #chsocm
  • 6. 6 Angela @mnplatypus T1a I didn't say social media, but Facebook, because the audience is there AND it facilitates word of mouth #ChSocM God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev RT @MeredithGould: T1A: For me personally? Twitter. For organizations? FB #chsocm same here. Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @GodtheHealerDev @facebook Or not so secretly...I'm persistently inviting everyone to Twitter...#chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T2.) On a number of occasions we've talked about "having a plan." Name one goal in your #chsocm plan. MeredithGould @MeredithGould @LuckyCharm333 Because what I do & need & how I best communicate as moiself, differs from what I'd do on behalf of an organization #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird @bfelice anytime! I only know a little, though. #chsocm Dawn Trautman @UrbanNomadUSA RT @meredithgould:Most effective tactic? Sharing relatable stories. Most effective tool? Depends! #chsocm//Message matters more than medium. Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick T1a: depends on the goal - and the strategy. #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @AmberStamperPhD Collect? Not exactly. Look at, review? Yes. I do a brief report for the annual meeting each year. #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @singingcarolyn Oh don't invite people to Twitter unless the tool will work well with their learning & communication style #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird T2: getting other people on board!! With idea of sm and as authors #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 T2 Become a presence & a destination in chosen milieu #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T2: I see our church (in a university community) needs to use #chsocm to keep our UVa students in loop when they have spotty attendance.
  • 7. 7 MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community & build new ones #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird RT @LuckyCharm333 T2 Become a presence & a destination in chosen milieu #chsocm //and helping ppl understand this process Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick T2: Develop appropriate engagement platform for student at UAA (local). #chsocm - doesn't predetermine the medium. They're very mobile!! Angela @mnplatypus T2 a goal for me is more consistency on Pinterest (I feel like I'm doing OK with Facebook and pinterest is a growth area) #ChSocM Miranda Gray @mirgray2 Agree. RT @mnplatypus: T1 I think the best we can aspire to is word of mouth #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T2: Plan? We are suppose to have a plan? Shoot…..? I try to tweet an uplifting thought daily. Does that count? #snarky MeredithGould @MeredithGould @singingcarolyn Twitter evangelism! Love it! #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @GodtheHealerDev does "flying by the seat of one's pants" count as a plan? #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev RT @MeredithGould: T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community & build new ones #chsocm Exactly! Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T2: My personal plan with my youth is to be available in any fashion they need, when they need. I give them many options. #chsocm Deirdre Daily @deirddaily_ #chsocm I students Deaf eloquence and sacred rhetoric. Social media helps me connect with people with related interests. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T2A.) Is your goal measureable? If so, how do you know if you are successful in reaching your goal? #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @BryanPXP 2 years ago this #chsocm community didn't exist! Built!
  • 8. 8 Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @theologybird I'd be happy w/getting ppl to understand the reason to aspire to that in the first place, forget the process #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn Amen! RT @MeredithGould T2: #1 goal: deepen existing community &amp; build new ones #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird @LeistCatalano @godthehealerdev :) that's how I started! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 MT @AmberStamperPhD So many effectiveness factors to eval (qual of interactions vs quant, for ex): hard to go just on feel? #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird @LuckyCharm333 Ha--Yes!!! #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev RT @LeistCatalano: @GodtheHealerDev does "flying by the seat of one's pants" count as a plan? #chsocm I hope so … Otherwise I am in trouble. Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @AmberStamperPhD I use mix of numbers and anecdotes to explain what and why. #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2a: Very very difficult to measure faith & successful evangelism b/c it can take yrs for people to actually get to a church #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2a That's years between hearing the message & attending church, let alone participating or getting on the rolls. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 MT @MeredithGould T2a: difficult to measure faith & successful evangelism b/c it can take yrs for people to actually get to a church #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD Do financial resources play a role in the goals that can be set for social media engagement for y'all at all? #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2a: Also, someone might be inspired by your #chsocm but decide to attend church for another denomination, or two! MeredithGould @MeredithGould @AmberStamperPhD Yes #chsocm
  • 9. 9 Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick @MeredithGould IF getting people to a church is your goal. We're trying to get them to God. #notthesame #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @MeredithGould Last statistic I read was that it takes on avg. 3 years of relationship-building for conversion decisions to be made #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @AmberStamperPhD yes, we will only use free social media resources unless we can be paid content/ads are working #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T3.) What distinguishes your social media implementations from every other Church’s? What makes yours unique? #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @AmberStamperPhD I wouldn't think so. A church w/enough diverse members should be able to keep #chsocm going w/volunteers. MeredithGould @MeredithGould @ofredrick Agree but many church communicators are forced to justify their existence but proving they've gotten butts in pews. #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @AmberStamperPhD Yes, we can only do so much with so little. But our "so much" can be pretty meaningful. #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @AmberStamperPhD Makes sense. Would've guessed 3-4. #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn Seems like this is one way where the Internet distinguishes itself as a medium for outreach #chsocm Evan Duncan @evanduncan @nealffischer T3) Personal, high quality, artistic, and powerful use of photography and video to tell stories of faith. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 T3 Sad to report, cong thinks even the website is a "waste of money," dislikes #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn T3 Good Q. I do follow all the churches in our area to see what they are doing. #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano T3 I use a lot of photos and make images with added text and quotes #chsocm
  • 10. 10 Sergio Caputo @binkylifeq Episcopal Camp Director from MT. Excited to be here for full hr. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @singingcarolyn T3 Good Q. I do follow all the churches in our area to see what they are doing. //Excellent! #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T3: Church is starting to experiment in YouTube. I think we'll expand. Just got a new, younger pastor so excited for road ahead. #chsocm Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick @MeredithGould Yep. We really want to make denominational adherents (and donors) - not disciples. No honesty in our metrics. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @binkylifeq welcome! jump in as you are able #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @LeistCatalano T3 I use a lot of photos and make images with added text and quotes #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @LuckyCharm333 Well, if the website is awful it *is* a waste of money! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould True. But hard to keep a website fresh when ppl won't give ministry updates. #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird RT @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould True. But hard to keep a website fresh when ppl won't give ministry updates. #chsocm Miranda Gray @mirgray2 Indeed RT @MeredithGould: T2a: Also, someone might be inspired by your #chsocm but decide to attend church for another denomination, or two! Beth Felice @bfelice I'm slow tonight. Objective is to facilitate the social through community, and not have a broadcast channel of one. #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T3: I am a sole act with no in person relationships, besides friends, colleagues, and conferences, I am able to see the bigger pic. Caroline Carson @Conductor222 @nealffischer T3 #chsocm I'm not sure if we're unique, well, I guess we are b/c we're US for realz! We also try using lots of humor on FB!
  • 11. 11 Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @singingcarolyn I also facebook-stalk other local churches :) #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @theologybird @LuckyCharm333 Yes, there is that! #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @LeistCatalano @singingcarolyn I also facebook-stalk other local churches :) #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @LeistCatalano Oh let's not call it stalking...let's call it gathering market intelligence! #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T4.) With new social networks popping up, seemingly daily, how do you evaluate new networks for Church use? #chsocm Miranda Gray @mirgray Ouch RT @ofredrick: Yep. We really want to make denominational adherents (and donors) - not disciples. No honesty in our metrics. #chsocm Marcus A. Cylar @pastorcylar Hate missing the #chsocm chat tonight. The weekly transcripts are so clutch tho God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T3: It allows me to connect people and gather resources for fellow pastors and clergy. Marlana Portolano @LanaPortolano @theologybird Takes some a lifetime " years of relationship-building for conversion decisions" #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T4 Great question. Tough to evaluate new platforms without using them a bit but I'd ask: do they help fulfill strategic goals? #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T4 We discussed all SM, I said we would have to be consistent and intentional. Otherwise, better spend energy elsewhere. #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus @MeredithGould @LeistCatalano #chsocm and really, watching others to some degree should be mandatory for all of us Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @BryanPXP Not much exciting happening with most local churches in StL and #ChSocM but things are picking up.
  • 12. 12 Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 T4 I'd err on the side of abandon. Est'd a 4Sq presence for my church & most of cong still doesn't even know what that is. #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @nealffischer #chsocm T4) We see if we can gauge the # of followers & whether or not it supports photos/vid/text well, do others use it etc. MeredithGould @MeredithGould @mnplatypus @LeistCatalano Observing others, absolutely! How else would we learn what works/what doesn't? #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird T4 is really hard when you're still trying to get ppl to agree with sm in general. Less input abt where they/friends are #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T4 I try & test everything out on myself, first and check out what others are doing before recommending to churches #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @mnplatypus @MeredithGould yes, I use my church facebook account to "gather intelligence" on about 200 other church organizations #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn T4. I have fun playing with new (to me) platforms personally. As I do so, I can start to see ministry applications. #chsocm Beth Felice @bfelice @meredithgould Agree, sometimes you just have to jump in there and see if the accent can be understood in your neck of the woods. #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird If others aren't involved in sm, new platforms increase pressure to be an expert and decrease their interest. (From what I've seen) #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @LeistCatalano @mnplatypus Smart. Very sociological! <thumbs up> #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @MeredithGould T4 I try & test everything out on myself first and check out what others are doing before recommending to churches #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn Really enjoying @snapchat and starting to see how it could be used for #chsocm. But not ready to launch.
  • 13. 13 God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T4: I wonder if other SM sites should be used to supplement your main SM site. Just a hairy thought. Steve Kenow @skenow @nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and then determine fit in overall strategy #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @singingcarolyn Isn't that the one where posts disappear after a minute or so? #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus @LuckyCharm333 #chsocm sometimes it takes diving in to really evaluate the potential. Still, there are only so many hours in a day Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @singingcarolyn <moderator hat off> I have been playing with Pheed for that reason. Lots of youth potential. Also, many reports... #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn Oh please share your thoughts when you do decide to launch! I would've thought Snapchat was a tough one! :) #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird @singingcarolyn Say more abt @snapchat please? All I'm hearing is fear and seeing YA's and other enjoy it #needmoretime #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird RT @skenow @nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and then determine fit in overall strategy #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano RT @skenow @nealffischer T4 1st make sure established channels are covered, observe and then determine fit in overall strategy #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP @AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn my kids tell me to get on SnapChat but I see more issues than not. #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 #chsocm T4) I also find locally that some platforms are more or less pop w/ certain age groups. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @singingcarolyn ...that young folks are really starting to flock to it away from FB. </moderator hat off> #chsocm
  • 14. 14 Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @BryanPXP @AmberStamperPhD @singingcarolyn my kids tell me to get on SnapChat but I see more issues than not. #chsocm Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @ChSocM Hey #chsocm peeps. Jumping in late after a little league game. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T5.) How do you implement a new social media network in your setting? Do you need approval? From whom? Who is involved? Angela @mnplatypus @singingcarolyn #chsocm interesting .... Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @paulsteinbrueck Who won? #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @BryanPXP @singingcarolyn Haha! :) Snapchat makes me nervous--I mean wherrre do the pictures goooo? Haha :) #chsocm ChurchSocMed #chsocm @chsocm @paulsteinbrueck Playing? Coaching? ;-) #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @paulsteinbrueck welcome Paul #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould T5: How do you implement a new social media network in your setting? Do you need approval? From whom? Who is involved? #chsocm Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn Snapchat is about sharing small moments with those you care about who aren't with you. See the ministry potential? #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird I know more and more young ppl who won't get or closed their FB @nealffischer @singingcarolyn #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @chsocm @paulsteinbrueck Playing? Coaching? ;-) #chsocm Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano T5 For starting a major new account like Pinterest I consult a group, but for adding an add-on like Instagram I just do it #chsocm
  • 15. 15 MeredithGould @MeredithGould @singingcarolyn Sharing small/short moments that then disappear so no one can be held accountable, right? That's what's worrisome. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @singingcarolyn Isn't all #chsocm about that? I guess it depends on where folks are... Beth Felice @bfelice I think we get caught in echo chambers, we don't "see" much going on. The great value of SM is to seamlessly leap between silos #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus T5 I pretty much have a free reign in trying whatever I like #ChSocM Caroline Carson @Conductor222 @nealffischer #chsocm I suggested FB & Twitter accts "as an experiment" b/c was met w/ furrowed brows from staff & clergy. Got approval tho! Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano T4 my kids (ages 1, 5, and 7) love Vine and Instagram #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @theologybird Hey I'm OLD & if I didn't do #chsocm for a so-called living, I'd close my FB account. PITA. #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird T5: upside of little interest, esp from institution is that I can do what I want, mostly. My staff will tell they don't have same #chsocm Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm Ha! #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP My church follows the policy: You want to do it? Go do it and be fruitful! (typically) #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @Conductor222 Don't understand all the furrowed brows. Every %$*^ company is on SM, why not #chsocm? Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally, disappears on the interwebs. #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus @AmberStamperPhD @BryanPXP @singingcarolyn #chsocm I'd think snapchat would come with an accountability issue, especially with youth
  • 16. 16 Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally, disappears on the interwebs. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @LeistCatalano <moderator hat off> You are absolutely right. Just about every #chsocm platform that is visual is growing faster.</> MeredithGould @MeredithGould @singingcarolyn Well we know nothing ever disappears but I think they believe it does! #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 #chsocm T5)... Now, the 2 clergy & myself, we do FB & I do Twitter. May be going to YouTube. Same for Civic Symphony & university Mus Dept Robyn Barnes @theologybird @singingcarolyn Good point. Is it more abt sustaining/building relationship? How do you meet new ppl/expand ur circle? #chsocm Steve Kenow @skenow @nealffischer T5 demonstrate how it works personally, show needs/benefits. Decide if official presence works #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T6.) What, if any, are the restrictions or limitations on social media activities in your setting? #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird @MeredithGould Me too--if it wasn't work relevant... But I keep hearing about FB and young ppl from uninformed #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @skenow And nothing wrong with a trial period. #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T5: Trial and error Robyn Barnes @theologybird RT @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Hopefully no one thinks that anything really, totally, disappears on the interwebs. #chsocm MeredithGould @MeredithGould @theologybird I feel your drain. #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 @LuckyCharm333 #chsocm I totally agree! They were thinking it was only for the distracted etc. Now, everyone sees the value of it!
  • 17. 17 Robyn Barnes @theologybird Camp=kids=release forms and parent concerns. All very valid and necessary. #chsocm Beth Felice @bfelice @meredithgould @theologybird I third your party. #chsocm cuz y'all know i'd be moving into reddit. Steve Kenow @skenow @luckycharm333 absolutely - give them an escape clause #chsocm God the Healer @GodtheHealerDev T6 #chsocm: only follow people and organizations that support my mission. I do not follow P!nk on this handle. Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @bfelice Reddit seems like an excellent mission field, actually. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @GodtheHealerDev T6 #chsocm: only follow people and organizations that support my mission. I do not follow P!nk on this handle. Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @bfelice <mod hat off> I am trying to do more with reddit. For finding info I am getting more out of Feedly.</> #chsocm Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP T6 Personally, I try to keep this account as me. So there are a lot of Mets tweets and a lot of 'life' tweets. I keep it like my RL. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @bfelice <mod hat off> I am trying to do more with reddit. For finding info I am getting more out of Feedly.</> #chsocm Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor T6 Use of FB in my setting still growing, with registration for events and spreading news. Other SM still far behind in audience #chSocM Caroline Carson @Conductor222 @nealffischer #chsocm T6) We really have none, but I give priest in charge final decisions if anything is questionable Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Final tweets of wisdom or inspiration? #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD Seems like witness used to be someone observing you in many day2day situations; now, it's someone seeing you in many diff platforms #chsocm
  • 18. 18 Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor #ChSocM Our VBS had record registration this year from outside our church, because added GoogleDoc form to FB page & "sharing" Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 (Mental note: Must investigate Reddit more thoroughly) #chsocm Robyn Barnes @theologybird Me too!!! RT @LuckyCharm333 (Mental note: Must investigate Reddit more thoroughly) #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 #chsocm T6) I always ask if diff depts want me to post something. I'm lucky we all think alike & are an A-team abt getting people involved! Bryan Rothamel @BryanPXP My wisdom was going to be along the lines of @AmberStamperPhD. Hers much better than whatever I was working on. #chsocm Rev. Robb McCoy @FatPastor #ChSocM I don't "get" Reddit. Still not sure how to add following on Instagram or Tumblr Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @AmberStamperPhD Amen! The times they are a'changin'... :-) (That was a song once upon a time for you younger folks!) #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD Seems like somehow we make ourselves "real" online by having a multi-dimensional social presence. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @FatPastor #ChSocM I don't "get" Reddit. Still not sure how to add following on Instagram or Tumblr Caroline Carson @Conductor222 To tweet or not to tweet... TWEET! And also RT “@nealffischer: Final tweets of wisdom or inspiration? #chsocm ” :-) Nora Ortiz Fredrick @ofredrick @mirgray Too cynical?? But you might see my point if you're in a declining denomination. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 RT @AmberStamperPhD Seems like somehow we make ourselves "real" online by having a multi-dimensional social presence. #chsocm
  • 19. 19 Robyn Barnes @theologybird @singingcarolyn Yes! But I dot have time/inclination/universal interest to figure all things out. So thankful for #chsocm and ppl like you! Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @LuckyCharm333 Mental note - does that work? My mental notes have a half life of ~10 seconds :) #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm Amber Stamper @AmberStamperPhD @paulsteinbrueck @LuckyCharm333 Snapchat would be perfect for you! ;) #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @ofredrick All denoms are declining, AFAIK, except maybe evangelicals. Our mission? Reverse the trend! #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace. #chsocm Caroline Carson @Conductor222 #chsocm That was fast! Beth Felice @bfelice @amberstamperphd Not so sure..I see different communities engaging on their own channels, few are hopping from platform to platform. #chsocm Cheryl K. @LuckyCharm333 @paulsteinbrueck Mine too. I had already forgotten that... LOL #chsocm Steve Kenow @skenow @nealffischer too many ways to consume #SM, balance with contributing and sharing. #chsocm Angela @mnplatypus @paulsteinbrueck @LuckyCharm333 #chsocm my mental note is kept by favoriting ... But no, it doesn't work as well as I'd like ... Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @theologybird Me too! So grateful for this community. I've learned so much. #chsocm Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer This #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening.Please continue chatting. Join us next week same Bat-Time Same Bat-Channel #PBWY